“Michèle Flournoy recently joined [host Jordan Schneider] on an episode of the ChinaTalk podcast. Eric Lofgren of the fantastic Acquisition Talk blog and podcast cohosted.

Jordan: How would you apply a social-psychological approach to US-China relations?

Michèle: That’s a great question. We have a lot of work to do to understand how Chinese leaders think: what their strategic calculus is, what they value, what costs they fear, the fundamentals that would actually deter their problematic action…”

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